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> 4 Lug Big Brakes, Maybe this???
ClayPerrine
post Feb 5 2025, 04:38 PM
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In searching the internet, I stumbled across this:

https://www.csp-shop.com/en/wheels-brakes/c...30a-15859a.html


This is a kit to convert a Super Beetle to big vented rotor brakes using Boxster calipers.

Why can't we use it for a 914 owner that wants to keep the 4 lug wheels? The 914 uses the same wheel bearings and seals as the Super Beetle, so it should be a bolt on kit.

Imagine a narrow body 914 with 4 lug Fuchs and a six. Or a Subie motor. Or a V-8.

What do y'all think???
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post Feb 5 2025, 04:40 PM
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It's been years, someone made 4 lug hubs that used 911 rotors. Can't remember who.
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post Feb 5 2025, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Feb 5 2025, 04:40 PM) *

It's been years, someone made 4 lug hubs that used 911 rotors. Can't remember who.



Yep.. and there wasn't enough call for them to offset the cost. This is already available and supported by the VW Beetle community, so we don't have to re-invent it.
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post Feb 5 2025, 04:45 PM
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Post #23, someone made them for a few years.
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post Feb 5 2025, 05:00 PM
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QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Feb 5 2025, 02:40 PM) *

It's been years, someone made 4 lug hubs that used 911 rotors. Can't remember who.

Muller designed them. I bought an early pair from Brad.
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post Feb 5 2025, 05:13 PM
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Those are Boxster rear calipers. Tiny pistons. Haven't done the math. They make great stuff though.
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post Feb 5 2025, 10:12 PM
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I 've seen these kits before, I like 'em. However, unless the rotors can be purchased separately (and will be available for years to come), basic wear and tear rotor replacement could eventually be an issue. And IF they are available separately (I didn't see them listed), then couldn't we (US forum members) put together the rest of the kit a whole lot more reasonably?

..Or, CSP could also just supply Cip1 with these particular 4/130 kits. They already carry CSP products and I've wondered in the past why in the world they wouldn't, since there are plenty old bug groups in the US.. well, 914 people too. That still wouldn't solve the issue of rotor replacement tho.

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post Feb 6 2025, 06:38 AM
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They list the rotors separately. 189. Euros each. Purchase the rotors an drill them for 5 bolt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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post Feb 6 2025, 07:04 AM
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I saw a post for Wildwood brakes for 4 lug 914.
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post Feb 6 2025, 08:36 AM
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They list the rotors separately. 189. Euros each. Purchase the rotors an drill them for 5 bolt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)



That just lets you keep the stock 4 cylinder front struts.

I was actually thinking narrow body 914 with 4 lug wheels and a six with bigger brakes.
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post Feb 6 2025, 08:37 AM
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They list the rotors separately. 189. Euros each. Purchase the rotors an drill them for 5 bolt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


Ahh, they're Sebro replacements.. I was searching CSP. :
https://www.csp-shop.com/en/wheels-brakes/b...MjMwNy4wLjAuMA..

There's also the 5/130 available, same price, so no need to have 'em drilled:
https://www.csp-shop.com/en/wheels-brakes/b...MjMwNy4wLjAuMA..
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QUOTE(rick 918-S @ Feb 6 2025, 06:38 AM) *

They list the rotors separately. 189. Euros each. Purchase the rotors an drill them for 5 bolt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


Ahh, they're Sebro replacements.. I was searching CSP. :
https://www.csp-shop.com/en/wheels-brakes/b...MjMwNy4wLjAuMA..

There's also the 5/130 available, same price, so no need to have 'em drilled:
https://www.csp-shop.com/en/wheels-brakes/b...MjMwNy4wLjAuMA..



There you go... 5 lug conversion without changing the struts.


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post Feb 6 2025, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(Literati914 @ Feb 5 2025, 09:12 PM) *

...Cip1 with these particular 4/130 kits. They already carry CSP products and I've wondered in the past why in the world they wouldn't, since there are plenty old bug groups in the US.. well, 914 people too...


Unstable exchange rate, heavy product for International freight and low margins coming from one reseller (CSP) to another. Best to get the Sebro number, go directly to them and have a larger shipment delivered stateside. We did that with our blank cores last year.

I have over 250 Boxster rear calipers... I'll see if we can get a shipment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

https://pmbperformance.com/products/disc-br...for-porsche-914

https://pmbperformance.com/products/5x130-d...for-porsche-914
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Feb 6 2025, 09:08 AM) *

QUOTE(Literati914 @ Feb 5 2025, 09:12 PM) *

...Cip1 with these particular 4/130 kits. They already carry CSP products and I've wondered in the past why in the world they wouldn't, since there are plenty old bug groups in the US.. well, 914 people too...


Unstable exchange rate, heavy product for International freight and low margins coming from one reseller (CSP) to another. Best to get the Sebro number, go directly to them and have a larger shipment delivered stateside. We did that with our blank cores last year.

I have over 250 Boxster rear calipers... I'll see if we can get a shipment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


I see, but I thought Sebro was a Brazilian company, I may be mistaken, and yet a German based company is stocking them. Maybe there's just so much more vintage VW culture in Europe - anyone know?

PS - Nevermind, Googles says they mfg. in Germany.
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I wonder if they'll fit our original 4-lug alloys (Pedrini, Fuchs, Mahle).... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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i dont believe any Boxster came equipped with 15" wheels?
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now available and a direct bolt on. You could call Sean Traywick here and he could tell you about it


QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Feb 5 2025, 03:38 PM) *

In searching the internet, I stumbled across this:

https://www.csp-shop.com/en/wheels-brakes/c...30a-15859a.html


This is a kit to convert a Super Beetle to big vented rotor brakes using Boxster calipers.

Why can't we use it for a 914 owner that wants to keep the 4 lug wheels? The 914 uses the same wheel bearings and seals as the Super Beetle, so it should be a bolt on kit.

Imagine a narrow body 914 with 4 lug Fuchs and a six. Or a Subie motor. Or a V-8.

What do y'all think???
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Search Wildwood big brake kit for Porsche 914. They offer front and rear 4 lug vented rotor kits.


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QUOTE(914werke @ Feb 6 2025, 09:00 AM) *

i dont believe any Boxster came equipped with 15" wheels?

And that matters because?

I have Boxster calipers front and rear and they clear my 15x7 cookie cutter wheels.
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QUOTE(Geezer914 @ Feb 6 2025, 04:53 PM) *

Search Wildwood big brake kit for Porsche 914. They offer front and rear 4 lug vented rotor kits.


Nice Complete kits ..installed on 911 no guessing.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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